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Tesla supercharger estimates are wrong for most (if not all) 800v cars

I was researching a few non-Tesla EV for our family. I planned some test trips using ABRP, and later found that the results aren’t correct or optimal. Since all but a few 500kW superchargers are limited to 400v, most 800v cars have to step up the voltage internally, using an onboard booster. That booster’s capacity becomes the bottleneck, and ABRP is completely oblivious to that fact. For example, Ioniq5 only chargers at

100–125 kW depending model/year,

Volvo EX60 likely ~120–150 kW (based on the current information). For both of these cars, superchargers aren’t the optimal solution, even though they have the correct ports. I’d expect APBR to be aware of that and choose non-Tesla 800v stations instead for stops like 9%=>65% because both cars can charge twice as fast there.

The only exception to this are the 800v cars that can split their packs during charge, effectively doubling the current at 400v. Here’s a few that I found out about:

BMW iX3 Neue Klasse, Porsche Taycan.

Thank you and best of luck!

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  • Katya S. changed status to In Progress
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    May 15

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    Hi @Sergei Serdyuk,

    Thank you for reporting this.

    We’ve investigated this since a couple days ago and found an issue with the voltage data we received for many Tesla locations.

    We’ve implemented a fix today and the charging times should now be more reasonable for 800V vehicles.

    We’ll also continue to investigate the erroneous voltage data supplied by our data provider for some Tesla locations.

    • Andrew Bartram

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      Jul 18

      Has this fix gone live? I haven’t seen it fix/impact this issue.

  • Andrew Bartram

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    Jul 18

    I also have this issue with the Zeekr 7X.